Twin Reverb
- 1964 -1967 “blackface” circuits AA763, AB763
- 1968 -1982 “silverface” circuits AC568, AA769, AA270
Tube layout
AB763 Tube layout (Seen from behind, V1 is to the right side)
- V1 12ax7 = Preamp normal channel
- V2 12ax7 = Preamp vibrato channel
- V3 12at7 = Reverb send
- V4 12ax7 = 1/2 Reverb recovery and 1/2 gain stage for vibrato channel
- V5 12ax7 = Vibrato
- V6 12at7 = Phase inverter
- V7 6L6 = Power tube #1
- V8 6L6 = Power tube #2
- V9 6L6 = Power tube #3
- V10 6L6 = Power tube #4
Summary
“If an alien came to earth and wanted to hear an American guitar sound, I’d play him my Twin with a set of Jensens”. This was stated by a happy Twin Reverb owner on Harmonycentral.com. It could have been our own words.
The Twin Reverb is the king of Fender blackface amps. Having two pairs of 6L6, the popular and traditional two-channel AB763 circuit design, a diode rectifier and enormous transformers (power & output), it offers tons of clean headroom and volume for unmiked gigs and really big stages. Where the other Fender amps break up at around 4 on the volume knob, the Twin stays clean up to almost 6 and will hold up against heavy drummers and bass players with clean notes sharp as a knife edge. This is exactly what the amp is made for, being played unmiked in in a gospel band in a 300-seat church every Sunday. It is designed not break up like the other Fender amps. You need to have your expectations set correctly to be able to appreciate the evil Twin. Warning nr 1) Weight. The big transformers and speakers makes this amp weigh around 40kgs, a burden too big for many gigging players who cannot (yet) afford a crew of roadies. Warning nr 2) Volume and clean headroom. If you want tube amp breakup and smoking tones with no pedals you will experience many fights with your band mates and club owners. Just as the other Fender amps the Twin needs to operate in its sweet spot up to sound sweet. After carrying a Twin Reverb on to the stage, the least you should deserve is to crank the bastard. Sadly, we are seldom offered the opportunity to turn the volume above 3 on a Twin Reverb. Instead we have played many nights with a thin and unpleasant tone, even worse with a sparkling, clean sounding strat. If you are one of these players, you should find some mods on this page interesting. With just a few simple tricks you can make your Twin break up earlier like the more versatile Pro Reverb 2×12″ and Deluxe Reverb 1×12″.
You’ll need schematics to implement some of these mods. http://www.ampwares.com/fender.asp. We usually start with explaining a mod from a functional perspective where we relate to components in the logical schematics diagram. Finally we point out location of components in the physical layout diagram.
Five fundamental tricks to create the holy grail of Fender tone
Here is a video demonstrating the effects of some of the mods and tricks described here. To see embedded text comments, go to video on Youtube.
Speakers
The blackface Twin Reverb came originally with Jensen C12n, Oxford 12T6 or JBL d120f. We have observed that the Jensens are considered as very good speakers both tonewise and in terms of robustness. The Oxford 12T6 are also superb speakers, a lot better than the 12L6 found in many Pro Reverbs and Deluxe Reverbs. They’ve got all what it takes, punch and sparkle. In a 50 year old vintage amp the condition of the speakers varies a lot. We’ve heard poor Jensens too. To those who are both players and collectors we would recommend to recone the speakers if you’re not happy with the tone. You may get a pair of vintage speakers to sound much better than they originally did in the 60s and 70s.
Installing high or low efficient speakers depends totally on your need for volume. If your plans are to play with lots of distortion at moderate volumes without being extremely loud, we recommend staying away from powerful and big sounding speakers (like EVM12L, Jensen C12N/K, Eminence Swamp Thang). In stead you should go for less efficient, “vintage” type speakers, perhaps with a dark frequency response if you are planning to play the amp beyond its sweet spot. Darker speakers tend to smoothen out the preamp and power amp tube distortion. For clean tone you should seek more neutral and transparent speakers. A nice trick is to pair different speakers, one vintage type and one more powerful. At some occasions we must admit that we get excited and fire up our Twin and Pro Reverb with speakers like EVM12L, Warehouse Veteran 30 or Eminence Swamp Thang. The punch of a big tone is amazing when coming from a big cabinet. Beware of the weight, though. The Twin Reverb will be around ~40kgs with heavy speakers, and therefore we prefer light speakers ourselves. Again, installing high or low efficient speakers depends totally on your need for volume. The TR can be really loud and even interfer with the bass guitar. A simple trick is to disable one of the speakers for less volume and earlier breakup. Not only do you reduce the speaker areal and bass tones, the tubes are pushed harder since they see a 8 ohm load in stead of 4 ohm through the output transformer. You’ll achieve sweet spot at a lower volume.
Check this video to hear a 1969 AB763 Twin Reverb loaded with 2×12″ WGS G12c (video on Youtube).
See page How to select speakers for general speaker recommendations.
Check this video to hear a 1966 blackface Pro Reverb 2×12″ with Jensen C12n (video on Youtube).
Half power mod – Pull out two 6L6 and disconnect 1 speaker.
Pull out the two inner 6L6 tubes and you have a ~40-50W amp. You should/can also disconnect one of the speakers to not have an impedance mismatch. The Twin reverb output transformer is designed to work most efficiently with the following impedances/loads and tube power configurations:
- 4 x 6L6 -> 4 ohm speaker load. And then comes the standard Fender +/- 100% tolerance.
- 2 x 6L6 -> 8 ohm speaker load. And then comes the standard Fender +/- 100% tolerance.
The plate voltage will increase a little when two of the tubes are removed. Ideally you should have the amp re-biased to not run the two remaining tubes too hard.
The voltage levels on the plus- and minus-sides of the output transformer’s primary circuit remains the same whith two and four 6L6 tubes. But the delivered current is doubled with four tubes. Hence, the power is also doubled. Power (Watts) = Current (Amperes) x Voltage (Volts).
This mod is a must-know survival trick for all Twin owners.
12AY7 or 12AT7 as preamp tubes – Less preamp gain.
If you want cleaner and spankier preamp distortion charcteristics, you may replace the V1 or V2 12AX7 preamp tube with 12AT7 and 12AY7. These tubes have different frequency responses than 12AX7, particurlarly when distorting. People describe these tubes to have less harsh and buzzy distortion. This mod does not alter the tone significantly when amp is played clean or when only the power amp section distorts. You’ll have to increase the volume setting to achieve a similar volume as before. The reason is that 12AX7 tube has a voltage gain factor = 100, while 12AT7 = 60 and 12AY7 = 45.
Pull out the V1 normal channel preamp tube – More preamp gain in vibrato channel.
We’ll start with saying that this is a must have mod. It is so easy to enable and disable that it can hardly be called a mod. If you are like most players and only use the Vibrato channel (reverb, tremolo, the brigth cap and the extra gain stage), you should pull out the V1 tube. This is the preamp tube for the normal channel which you are not using. Vice versa; If you’re using the Normal channel, you can pull out the V2 tube. All AB763-similar circuits (Deluxe Reverb, Super Reverb, Pro Reverb, Twin Reverb, Vibroverb, Vibrolux) are designed so that signal is leaking between the two channels. The amp will play louder at the same volume knob setting when pulling the V1/V2 tube that you’re not using. The stronger signal will push the second gain stage (V4 tube) harder and give you increased sustain, compression and harmomics. This mod does not change the amp’s clean headroom.
This mod is one of Cesar Diaz’ tricks in the Fender Custom Shop Vibroverb 64 which he always did to Stevie’s amps.
Replace the 12AT7 PI tube with a 12AX7 or 12AU7 – Less clean headroom.
Very practical mod at practice and low volume environments. This mod reduces the amp’s clean headroom and you’ll achieve sweet spot at a lower volume. You’ll notice that the amp gets looser and with less attack. Tips: If you pulled the V1 12AX7 tube you may use it as V6 phase inverter.
12AX7 as phase inverer tube will give the most effect out of this mod. 12AU7 will be in between 12AT7 and 12AU7.
Replace the 12AT7 reverb driver with 12AU7 – Better reverb control.
Reverb is an important character with vintage amps, yet so individual and mysterious. We all know that speakers change their tonal character during age. So does the reverb. The reverb function sounds and behaves differently between “identical” vintage amps. Some amps have long, lush and soft reverb while others are mushy and overwhelming. We often find the reverb sweet spot around 2.5 on the reverb pot, varying from 2 to 4. Some amps are sensitive and difficult to control the reverb on. The whole dynamic area can be within a narrow interval, i.e. 2 and 2.5. These amps require a careful touch when dialling in the reverb, which irritates us.
The reverb circuitry consists of two tube sections (reverb driver V3 and reverb recovery V4) and the physical reverb tank. All these components will drift during age and minor differences in component values are noticeable to man’s ear.
If you replace the V3 12AT7 reverb driver with a 12AU7, you will reduce the effect of the reverb and it will be much easier to control with the reverb knob. So simple as that.
Use normal channel for reverb control – Adjust EQ and depth of reverb.
This mod is relevant only for two-channel amps with normal and vibrato channel. This trick is great for the reverb enthusiasts among us, and who is not? Plug your guitar into the vibrato channel, then unplug the reverb return cable on the back of the amp (the one that comes from the reverb tank output) and plug it into the normal channel input. You will need a converter to go from male phono/RCA jack to a 1/4″ male jack. You may now use the normal channel as a reverb control where you can adjust the depth and tone using the volume, bright switch, treble and bass knobs (and mid if you have a Twin Reverb). The reverb knob on the vibrato channel will have no effect any longer.
This mod is not applicable together with the Pull V1 mod, as you need the normal channel preamp tube.
Tremolo disconnect mod - More preamp gain in vibrato channel.
The effect of this mod is similar to pulling the V1 normal channel preamp tube when playing the vibrato channel. This is also a very popular mod in AB763-similar circuits (Super, Twin, Virboverb, Pro Reverb, Deluxe, Vibrolux).
By original design the tremolo circuit will absorbe current/signal even when one turns the tremolo off with the footswitch. This mod suggests to entirly disconnect the tremolo circuit from the signal path by replacing the tremolo intensity pot with a switchabe pot (spst). One side effect with this mod is a noticable click and a volume difference between tremolo on and off using the new spst pot. If one uses the tremolo regularly one should still use the tremolo pedal to enable/disable the tremolo and leave the intensity spst pot at your desired level. The spst pot is not good for enabling and disabling the tremolo very often (because of the click and the volume difference) but is a nice when you play without tremolo. A good thing with this mod is that you have both the tremolo pedal and spst pot to use.
With a new switchable/spst pot set at intensity=0 the mod will kick in and raise the signal level in the preamp section, right before the phase inverter. Once you’re turning up the tremolo the circuit is connected again and the tone will remain original. This mod does not increase the amp’s clean headroom. We would describe the effect as making the tone richer, fuller and more powerful with stronger mids that pushes the power amp section harder (phase inverter + power tubes). We like this mod a lot for stratocasters wi the Fender AB763-similar circuits since they boost a relatively scooped and thin sounding guitar and amp. In addition to pulling the V1 tube, this mod is one of those must have mods which we never undo once having implemented it.
This mod is one of Cesar Diaz’ tricks in the Fender Custom Shop Vibroverb 64 which he always did to Stevie’s amps. This mod can be implemented in two ways, either by unsoldering the tremolo circuit or replacing the tremolo intensity pot with a swicthable pot, so-called SPST pot. The switch is enabled when you turn down intensity to zero. There are also switchable push/pull pots where you pull the knob to enable the switch.
- Order a 50k SPST from one of our recommended amp part dealers.
- Remove the original 50k trem intensity potmeter by unsoldering the wires to the potmeter lugs and unount the pot from the chassis. The black plastic wheel is to be used for the new pot.
- Install the new 50k SPST pot to the chassis. This is a switchable pot offering a mid positioned switch in addition to the variable resistanse 0-50KOhm between the lugs. At level=0 you’ll completly disconnect the tremolo circuit.
- See the wiring diagram below.
- You’ll have to solder the yellow wire to one side of the mid positioned switch in stead of to the right pot lug as before.
- Then solder a new (red) wire between the other side of switch to the right lug.
If you’re permanemtly disconnecting the tremolo circuit you can just clip of the brown and yellow wires and insulate the ends with tape. Note that the figure below shows the Super Reverb. The Twin Reverb would be the same.
(One may also use the tremolo pedal, in stead of the spst switch/pot, to entirly disconnect the tremolo. You will not need to replace the intensity pot with a spst, but let the yellow wire to the tremolo pot go through the tremolo pedal. In our opinion this is not a good idea since one loses the possibility to use both the spst switch and tremolo pedal. Using the pedal will now involve a significant click sound and volume increase.)
Blackfacing
The differences between AA763 and AB763 are discussed in the Super Reverb section and we won’t repeat that here. As for the Super Reverb we would recommend the AB763 circuit as target if you attempt to blackface a silverface circuit.
AC568 vs AB763
The changes are marked with red circles in figure below. We comment every circle also.
- Bias electrolytic cap was changed from 50?F/50V to 50?F/70V in AC568. Tone not affected.
- The voltage divider resistors (in filter cap circuit) was changed from 1KOhm and 4.7KOhm to 2.2KOhm and 10KOhm.
- 2200pF caps on 6L6 grids were introduced. Leaking high frequencies to ground means less distortion and cleaner tone.
- Cathode caps on 6L6 tubes were introduced, as well as caps connecting the two pairs og 6L6. Values are not readable. Also attempt to eliminate distortion.
- Phase inverter plate resistors changed from 82K/100K to 47K/47K. Also the 470Kohm resistor in PI circuit was changed to 220K.
Logical schematics (showing the AC568):
Layout (showing the AB763):
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Increase/remove/switchable NFB resistor
This mod is applicable in all Fender amps with a negative feedback (NBF) loop. The purpose of the NBF loop is to clean up and cancel out high frequencies and upper harmonics (distortion). Without the NBF loop the volume knob gets more sensitive and aggressive. You’ll find the amp’s sweet spot at a lower volume knob setting. If you remove the feedback loop entirely you’ll achieve maximum effect of this mod. You do not get more or less clean headroom in the amp. You get a rougher and rawer tone with more of the higher frequencies, aka hizz. If you think your guitar and speaker is bright enough you probably do not want any more treble. This mod is for those who want even more of the razor edge sharp tone. Many players find the vibrato channel in AB763-similar circuits bright enough. If you do this mod, we recommend the switchable mod. In the Twin Reverb, this mod may be harsh if you have bright speakers.
You may choose to implement the mod in several ways:
- Simply disconnect the feedback loop (a wire). The 820Ohm resistor can easily be removed with a soldering iron. See the red circled resistor in figures below.
- Increase the feedback loop resistance value. This reduces the effect of the feedback loop, making the amp break up more.
- One of the two alternatives above in combination with making the NBF switchable. You can solder out and remove existing wires to the ground switch if you plan not to use it (if you’re wondering what it does, you don’t need it). Then wire the ground switch in series with the 820Ohm NBF reistor. This will make the NFB mod switchable, which is very practical.
Logical schematics
Layout
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Mulitiple and flexible speaker output impedances (built-in attenuator)
This mod requires the knowledge of how to replace a transformer in your amp. The mod will give you mulitiple and flexible speaker output impedances where the external speaker output jack serves as a secondary independently speaker output. This flexibility is desirable when combining the inbuilt speakers together with an extension cabinet.
The original OT in a TR is sized for a 4 Ohm speaker impedance (2×12? @ 8 ohm). It will make sure the power tubes “see” the correct impedance and can operate at optimal conditions in terms of clean headroom potential and frequency response. If you were to replace the original OT with a 2 ohm OT, the tubes will be pushed harder since they see a bigger load than expected (the tubes see the speakers through the OT). Both the volume and clean headroom will be reduced, yet the tone stays fairly the same (some clarity may be lost). This effect is similar to an attenuator, which is very nice when you want to achieve the amp’s sweet spot at a lower volume.
- In a 2×12? @ 8 ohm speaker configuration, we recommend 4 ohm + 2 ohm output impedances.
- In a 1×12? @ 8 ohm speaker configuration, we recommend 8 ohm + 4 ohm output impedances.
- Go to Mercury Magnetics web site. Order the Twin Reverb multi-tap OT with 2, 4 and 8 ohm taps.
- Remove the original OT carefully and store it away. Install the Mercury Magnetics OT.
- Wire the OT’s primary circuit just as before. Clip the cables nicely and twist them as Leo Fender’s gently old ladies did. Insulate the unused ones with tape.
- The OT’s secondary circuit will be wired differently. Wire the 4 ohm tap to the main speaker jack. Then wire the 2 tap to the ext speaker jack. You must first remove all existing wiring on the external speaker jack so that it is totally separated from the main speaker jack.
- Now you have two speaker outputs; 4 ohm + 2 ohm. You may use them independently and the ext speaker jack does not require the main speaker jack to be plugged.
We like this mod a lot. Especially since we’re using the original jack outputs. Choosing the 2 ohm output with two 8 ohm speakers (4 ohm) in will attenuate the volume a lot at practise and gigs.
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Just to be safe. Do I need to rebias to pull the v1-12ax7 out and place it in the phase inverter position? Thanks!
Nope. You’re welcome.
Have a weird Pro-reverb but that has no rectifier tube. I have one of the two black heater wires off . One is going to pin 2 of the first 6L6 and the other goes to nowhere. The amp has been intermittent and I think this is the culprit. Help! What pin should it go to? These are the two black wires coming from the pilot lite area twisted.
I have Fender Twin model LL66385, I’ve also seen numbers (021-6200-010)
How could I find info on specs for this amp? It’s probably from late eighties or early nineties .
thanks
Dear Jens,
Just discovered this site and I am grateful for all of your information. I’ve got a ’68 Dual Showman Reverb (Silverface, Aluminum Drip guard), that had already been Blackfaced to the AB763 circuit from its original AA768 when I bought it (always heard this was the easiest circuit to mod to classic AB763 specs). Pretty much exactly the same as a Twin Reverb, but with the convenience of less weight and options of cab switching-currently using either a 4×12 w/ 2 Jensen ceramics on bottom and 2 Eminence alnicos on top, or a 2×12 with a pair of old Utahs, both wired to 4 ohm. Love the clean Fender tone, and I can get distortion when I need it from stompboxes, but now that I’m married I need to turn down the volume. I’ve got a couple of questions: 1) I like to use the old trick of plugging in to Channel 1 then bridging into Channel 2 with a patch cable to get greater tone control and still use vibrato and reverb. If I switch pre-amp tubes to 12AT7′s or 12AY7′s, change the phase inverter to a 12AX7 and pull the V1 pre-amp tube, will I still be able to bridge from CH 1 to CH 2? I like the trem and reverb the way it is, and will not be messing with those; 2) I’ve often done the pulling a pair of power tubes trick to lower power output and some volume-never had a problem with impedance mismatches or tube biases being an issue. I’ve discovered a JBL D130 in a Peavey solid state amp for cheap ($100!) at a local pawn shop. I’m thinking about building a 1×15 cab. Will the lower power rating and increased impedance caused by pulling two tubes allow me to run this speaker without fear of destroying this holy grail of Fender amp and speaker configurations? Thanks for any thoughts/comments, Olen.
Hi.
When you’re pulling the V1 tube you’re totally disabling the normal channel. Whateverr you plug in to the normal ch input is lost. The first thing that happens to the guitar signal after it enters the normal channel input is beeing amplified by the V1 tube (one half of the tube). Then the amplified signal enters the EQ and tone control circuit before it is amplified by the second half of V1 tube. Then it is merged with the Vibrato channel signal just before they both reach the phase inverter.
As for the impedance the amp will do fine with running a 8 ohm speaker load (with all four tubes present). The JBL can take a lot of power, so I wouldn’t be afraid of blowing it. If you pull two power tubes the amp output impedance increases to 8 ohms and you have a perfect match with the 8 ohm speaker load.
Best.
Jens
Hi Jens,
Thanks for your reply. I pretty much figured if I pulled the V1 preamp tube I’d lose the normal channel input and its tone control circuit, but thought I’d check with a guru to be sure. I’m gonna try a selection of your recommended preamp V1/V2 and PI tubes, and see if I like the results. I love the clear tone and clean headroom you can only get from a classic Twin/Showman, but as we get older it gets harder to find other people willing to accommodate the volume needed to hit these amps’ sweet spot. As to the JBL D130, I have heard that though the speaker is nominally rated at 40-60 watts they have been known to handle much more power (as evidenced by Fender originally pairing a single D130 with the Showman amp). Looking forward to picking that one up and becoming Dick Dale overnight! Do you know where I can find any plans/schemes online for building a 15″ cab? Thanks for all your help and a great site, Olen.
Check Weber’s extension cabinets. You may use materials and dimensions from there, or from TAD or mojotone.com. I built one based on the biggest 15″ ext cabinet on Weber, and put in a Eminence Legend 1518. That cabinet is fantastic together with 2×12″, 2×10″ or 1×12″ combos.
Hi Jens,
I’m a new (and happy) SF twin ’78 owner. It has bronze basket speakers (Fender special design as I see with numbers ?37 7915 005379). But I didn’t find any description about this speaker’ type. I kindly ask for info how I can get to know more.
Best wishes
Steve
hi Steve!
the first digit of your speaker-code is probably a “1″ – so it´s pretty safe to say that you have a set of CTS (137 is the mfg-code for CTS) speakers from the 15th week of 1979 (7915 is the date-code).
these were common equipment at the time – and i happen to have a set just like it (11th week!)
cheers – 68.
Great site. Thanks for all your work.
Just curious if any 65 Twin Reverb Reissue owners have pulled two of the power tubes and disconnected one speaker. Can the TRRIs run safely like this?
thanks for any info!
hi!
Sorry, I don´t have a twin reverb (of any kind), but yes, it works the same way on the reissues.
best – 68.
Hi Jens!
thanks god a fender amp guru really exist!
sorry for my bad english,i’ll try to explain!
today I was looking around the web for some info about “matching a cab” for a ’65 twin reverb reissue,
I’ve got one from 1991,really mint condition, and I use it combined with an orange ad 140,running in stereo mode trough a stereo delay,
i’ve got so much sound,doing this,that i don’t like to play out of my studio!
but i’ve got some question for you,hope you can help me…!
i’d like to try to match a 4×12 cabinet with my twin reverb,but i need some info about the impedences..
the TR use 2 x 8 ohm” speakers,so the results is 4 ohm.
-if i want to use an extension cabinet,without changing the wiring of the twin reverb’s internal speaker,
and without disconnecting ‘em , how much the external cabinet impedance must to be?
-is it possible to use both internal and external without wire changing?
-the internal speaker,when i connect the external speaker jack,get automatically disconnected?
I really hope my english phrase-making-period could be understood…
thank you very much!
glauco
to be more precise,i ‘ve got 2 external cabinet…
a 1×12 8ohm(vintage 30)
and a 4×12 with 4 greenback(16 ohm)-i could wire them in 4 or 8 ohm,depends what impedence my TRreissue need for the external speaker.
what is the best choice?
thanks again,glauco
hi glauco!
I think your English is just fine
It´s best to use an extension cabinet with the same impedance as the internal speakers – in this case a 4 Ohm cab. That way the power of the amp will be devided equally between both cabinets.
You can use the internal speakers PLUS the other cabinet when you use the ext.-speaker-jack.
Using a second 4 Ohm cab with the Twin will bring the total impedance down to 2 Ohm – which is a 100% mismatch. This is not optimal, but it´s generally considered safe on Fender-amps.
best – 68.
thank you for the answer,it’s all clear!
so,the best thing to do is to use a 8 ohm external cabinet and rewire the internal cabinet to 8 ohm,getting a 4 ohm total impedance,right?
using a 4 for internal and a 8 for an external,could create a volume difference,between the cabs,right?
but in this case,the total imepdance it’s right?
thanks,glauco
Hi glauco!
For long-term use it would be best to use a total load of 4 Ohms – no matter which way you achieve it.
For occasional use, I think you´d be fine with an external 8 Ohm cab AND the internal speakers.
You will end up with a mismatch (2.6 Ohm or so…), but it won´t kill your amp right away.
The external cab will be a little less loud due to the higher load – but from my memory a Twin Reverb is usually plenty loud anyway
best – 68.