Super Reverb
- 1964 -1967 “blackface” circuits AA763, AB763
- 1967 -1969 “silverface” circuits AB763, AB568
- 1969 -1978 ”silverface” circuits AA1069, AA270, cbs 45w MstrVol, cbs 70w MstrVol
Tube layout
AA763/AB763 Tube layout (Seen from behind, V1 is to the right side)
- V1 12ax7 = Preamp normal channel
- V2 12ax7 = Preamp vibrato channel
- V3 12at7 = Reverb send
- V4 12ax7 = 1/2 Reverb recovery and 1/2 gain stage for vibrato channel
- V5 12ax7 = Vibrato
- V6 12at7 = Phase inverter
- V7 6L6 = Power tube #1
- V8 6L6 = Power tube #2
- V9 GZ34 = Rectifier tube
Summary
The AB763 Super Reverb is a very popular Fender amp due to the huge tone, robustness and the pure tone from the traditional blackface AB763 amp design. The AB763 design is also to be found in some silverface amps between 1967 and 1969. The later silverface circuits were changed further by CBS to become cleaner, harder and thinner sounding, specially if one compares amps at the same volume and EQ setting. If you’re into sparkling clean tones, a silverface can do the job just as well as a blackface amp. The blackfaces have more growl and a distorted, cranked tone. It is heavy to carry with the 4×10″ speakers and massive iron transformers. The height also makes it difficult to carry, making you sweat when hauling it between gigs. It’s a big sounding amp with a potential for being very loud and bassy given the right (wrong) speakers. The nature of the 4×10″ speaker configuration is a directional tone with screaming treble right forwards and backwards and unfortunately little spread. A lot of deep bass is produced by the bigt cabinet while the important mids are fairly low, a scooped tone. Many players are stupid and increase the volume to compensate for the lack of spread and mids. This will introduce even more bass and sharp treble. Playing the Super Reverb is not supposed to be easy… Despite all the difficultness with this amp there will occasionally be gigs, perhaps outdoors or at a big stage, where the amp won’t hurt anyone in a radius of 3 meters. You are allowed to turn the volume beoynd 4 where the amp comes alive. We remember these occasions as our happiest musical moments. The notes bounce off our strings and we are musically and physically connected with the amp just using the pick attack and guitar volume to roll back and switch between rythm and solo. Perhaps a transparent boost pedal to take us into David Gilmour land with sustain, harmonics and a creamy tone. You can physically feel the dynamic response from one of the best vintage Fender amps of them all. But only if you know how to tame this beast.
Many have spent years chasing speakers, guitars and pickups to avoid the typical trebly and sharp Fender character. It requires some experience to get a fabolous tone from a Super Reverb. Most of the maintenance and mod tips below will make the amp break up earlier, reaching the sweet spot at a lower volume. Tube mods (pulling V1 out and a 12ax7 PI) will take you a long way. Next, if your speakers are efficient and too loud for the occasion, then why not disconnect two of them in just 5 seconds? If you also invested in implementing the tremolo disconnect mod, you may turn an ear-bleeding Super Reverb into a tone machine with a fatter, warmer and fuller tone at practise volumes.
You’ll need schematics to implement some of these mods. http://www.ampwares.com/fender.asp. We usually start with explaining a mod from a functional perspective where we relate to components in the logical schematics diagram. Finally we point out location of components in the physical layout diagram.
Five fundamental tricks to create the holy grail of Fender tone
Here is a video demonstrating the effects of some of the mods and tricks described here. To see embedded text comments, go to video on Youtube.
Speakers
Fender sold these amps with several speakers. The first AA763 models in 1964-65 had Jensen C10r. Then there were CTS ceramics and alnicos as well as Oxford 10L6 in the blackface AB763 amps. In the silverface amps Fender continued with Oxford and CTS but also used Utah, Rola and Eminence. This is one important reason why two Super Reverbs can sound very different. In our opinion the Super Reverbs with Jensen and CTS are valuable as both collectors and players’ amps today. These speakers perform very well and one does not need to upgrade to modern, efficient speakers like for many other vintage speakers. The CTS alnicos are also very popular speakers even if they are little efficient. During the years the Alnico magnets get weaker too. The CTS Alnico require you to increase the volume a lot and you’ll see players that dial in their amps at 6 or 7 on the volume knob. With ceramic speakers this is enormously loud. With vintage Alnico speakers you will get more breakup from the amp due to their low efficiency. On the other hand, the CTS ceramics are known for their power, efficiency and full low end. They also have lots of sparkle and treble and are very good speakers in our opinion. An amp with the original speakers will be more valuable than one with any non-original speakers, even of the originals are blown Speaker reconing has become a growing business the latest years, allowing players to play their vintage amps and still preserve their originality. Reconed speakers may not even sound like the originals, sometimes they even sound better.
Swapping the speakers is the most effective change you possibly can do to change the tone of your amp. In a 4×10″ application why would you want highly efficient and powerful speakers? The volume and weight of such speakers is often a burden, not to mention the loss of dynamics and touch sensitivity that normally comes with powerful speakers. We’ve seen many players in their early years seeking maximum volume and punch in their amps. When they’ve played loud and rough for some years, they get tired and realize that high volume didn’t make them better players. Some discovered that it even made them worse. After chasing volume, many will start hunting the correct vintage tone and it’s all about getting the ”vintage correct” speakers, new or old. The good thing with vintage speakers is their light weight. As the years go by you’ll be more and more concerned with the amp’s weight. You realize that you are able to create beautiful music without big, powerful speakers. Most important, the audience will be more happy once you concentrate on the music and dynamics rather than volume.
Such morale stories should lead us to the fact that amp weight is important. Installing four powerful 50W+ speakers with heavy magnets will sooner or later force you and your back to park the amp in your basement. Volume won’t take you anywhere. In stead you should make use of the flexibility that comes with a 4×10″ configuration. With lighter, less powerful and perhaps less efficient speakers, you’ll be able utilize more breakup from the amp. If you are gigging with your Super Reverb in different environments we find it useful to install a mix of speakers that bring different qualities to the table. By enabling and rewiring the speakers you can quickly switch your tone depending on what the specific gig requires. Good configurations can be
- Jensen P10r + C10q
- Jensen P10q + Jensen Jet Tornado
- Eminence Copperhead + Legend 1028K
- Eminence Copperhead + Ragin Cajun
- Eminence Legend 1058 + Weber 10F150/10F125
- Weber 10A125 + 10F125/10F150
- Weber 10A125/10F125 + 10A150
- Warehouse Veteran 10″ + G10c (or Weber 10A125/10F125/10A150)
See page How to select speakers for general speaker recommendations.
The Super Reverb can be really loud and even interfer with the bass guitar. A simple trick is to pull out two of the speakers for less volume and earlier breakup. Not only do you reduce the speaker areal and bass tones, the tubes are pushed harder when seeing a 4 ohm load in stead of 2. You’ll achieve sweet spot at a lower volume.
Check this video to hear the Weber 10A150 in a Fender Super Reverb (video on Youtube). Just two speakers, 2 ohm OT, tremolo disconnect mod and V1 tube pulled out.
This video shows several 10″ speakers; Warehouse Veteran, Eminence Legend Alnico “blue frame”, Jensen NEO-100, Weber 10A125/10F125 (video on Youtube). Just two speakers are enabled (4 ohms) with a 65 Super Reverb having tremolo disconnect mod and V1 tube pulled out.
12AY7 or 12AT7 as preamp tubes – Less preamp gain.
If you want cleaner and spankier preamp distortion charcteristics, you may replace the V1 or V2 12AX7 preamp tube with 12AT7 and 12AY7. These tubes have different frequency responses than 12AX7, particurlarly when distorting. People describe these tubes to have less harsh and buzzy distortion. This mod does not alter the tone significantly when amp is played clean or when only the power amp section distorts. You’ll have to increase the volume setting to achieve a similar volume as before. The reason is that 12AX7 tube has a voltage gain factor = 100, while 12AT7 = 60 and 12AY7 = 45.
Pull out the V1 normal channel preamp tube – More preamp gain in vibrato channel
We’ll start with saying that this is a must have mod. It is so easy to enable and disable that it can hardly be called a mod. If you are like most players and only use the Vibrato channel (reverb, tremolo, the brigth cap and the extra gain stage), you should pull out the V1 tube. This is the preamp tube for the normal channel which you are not using. Vice versa; If you’re using the Normal channel, you can pull out the V2 tube. All AB763-similar circuits (Deluxe Reverb, Super Reverb, Pro Reverb, Twin Reverb, Vibroverb, Vibrolux) are designed so that signal is leaking between the two channels. The amp will play louder at the same volume knob setting when pulling the V1/V2 tube that you’re not using. The stronger signal will push the second gain stage (V4 tube) harder and give you increased sustain, compression and harmomics. This mod does not change the amp’s clean headroom.
This mod is one of Cesar Diaz’ tricks in the Fender Custom Shop Vibroverb 64 which he always did to Stevie’s amps.
Replace the 12AT7 PI tube with a 12AX7 or 12AU7 – Less clean headroom.
Very practical mod at practice and low volume environments. This mod reduces the amp’s clean headroom and you’ll achieve sweet spot at a lower volume. You’ll notice that the amp gets looser and with less attack. Tips: If you pulled the V1 12AX7 tube you may use it as V6 phase inverter.
12AX7 as phase inverer tube will give the most effect out of this mod. 12AU7 will be in between 12AT7 and 12AU7.
Replace the 12AT7 reverb driver with 12AU7 – Better reverb control.
Reverb is an important character with vintage amps, yet so individual and mysterious. We all know that speakers change their tonal character during age. So does the reverb. The reverb function sounds and behaves differently between “identical” vintage amps. Some amps have long, lush and soft reverb while others are mushy and overwhelming. We often find the reverb sweet spot around 2.5 on the reverb pot, varying from 2 to 4. Some amps are sensitive and difficult to control the reverb on. The whole dynamic area can be within a narrow interval, i.e. 2 and 2.5. These amps require a careful touch when dialling in the reverb, which irritates us.
The reverb circuitry consists of two tube sections (reverb driver V3 and reverb recovery V4) and the physical reverb tank. All these components will drift during age and minor differences in component values are noticeable to man’s ear.
If you replace the V3 12AT7 reverb driver with a 12AU7, you will reduce the effect of the reverb and it will be much easier to control with the reverb knob. So simple as that.
Use normal channel for reverb control – Adjust EQ and depth of reverb.
This mod is relevant only for two-channel amps with normal and vibrato channel. This trick is great for the reverb enthusiasts among us, and who is not? Plug your guitar into the vibrato channel, then unplug the reverb return cable on the back of the amp (the one that comes from the reverb tank output) and plug it into the normal channel input. You will need a converter to go from male phono/RCA jack to a 1/4″ male jack. You may now use the normal channel as a reverb control where you can adjust the depth and tone using the volume, bright switch, treble and bass knobs (and mid if you have a Twin Reverb). The reverb knob on the vibrato channel will have no effect any longer.
This mod is not applicable together with the Pull V1 mod, as you need the normal channel preamp tube.
Diode rectifier - More clean headroom.
This mod is for those who need more power, clean headroom and attack. It is very practical to carry with you those small Sovtek plastic adapters that quickly and easily replaces the rectifier tube. You’ll increase the power of the amp with a few watts. The diode rectifier will feed your amp’s filter caps with a higher and ”faster” DC voltage compared to a tube rectifier. The fact that it delivers a slightly higher DC voltage to your power tubes (via the filter caps) means an increase of the tube voltage gain factor. When you hit a hard chord the preamp and power tubes will require energy and current is flowing from the DC filter caps which are charged up by the rectifier. If the recitifer can deliver more energy more quickly, you’ll have more power and attack.
Check also out Ted Weber’s “Copper Cap Rectifiers” that emulates the sag of a tube rectifier.
Tremolo disconnect mod - More preamp gain in vibrato channel.
The effect of this mod is similar to pulling the V1 normal channel preamp tube when playing the vibrato channel. This is also a very popular mod in AB763-similar circuits (Super, Twin, Virboverb, Pro Reverb, Deluxe, Vibrolux).
By original design the tremolo circuit will absorbe current/signal even when one turns the tremolo off with the footswitch. This mod suggests to entirly disconnect the tremolo circuit from the signal path by replacing the tremolo intensity pot with a switchabe pot (spst). One side effect with this mod is a noticable click and a volume difference between tremolo on and off using the new spst pot. If one uses the tremolo regularly one should still use the tremolo pedal to enable/disable the tremolo and leave the intensity spst pot at your desired level. The spst pot is not good for enabling and disabling the tremolo very often (because of the click and the volume difference) but is a nice when you play without tremolo. A good thing with this mod is that you have both the tremolo pedal and spst pot to use.
With a new switchable/spst pot set at intensity=0 the mod will kick in and raise the signal level in the preamp section, right before the phase inverter. Once you’re turning up the tremolo the circuit is connected again and the tone will remain original. This mod does not increase the amp’s clean headroom. We would describe the effect as making the tone richer, fuller and more powerful with stronger mids that pushes the power amp section harder (phase inverter + power tubes). We like this mod a lot for stratocasters wi the Fender AB763-similar circuits since they boost a relatively scooped and thin sounding guitar and amp. In addition to pulling the V1 tube, this mod is one of those must have mods which we never undo once having implemented it.
This mod is one of Cesar Diaz’ tricks in the Fender Custom Shop Vibroverb 64 which he always did to Stevie’s amps. This mod can be implemented in two ways, either by unsoldering the tremolo circuit or replacing the tremolo intensity pot with a swicthable pot, so-called SPST pot. The switch is enabled when you turn down intensity to zero. There are also switchable push/pull pots where you pull the knob to enable the switch.
- Order a 50k SPST from one of our recommended amp part dealers.
- Remove the original 50k trem intensity potmeter by unsoldering the wires to the potmeter lugs and unount the pot from the chassis. The black plastic wheel is to be used for the new pot.
- Install the new 50k SPST pot to the chassis. This is a switchable pot offering a mid positioned switch in addition to the variable resistanse 0-50KOhm between the lugs. At level=0 you’ll completly disconnect the tremolo circuit.
- See the wiring diagram below.
- You’ll have to solder the yellow wire to one side of the mid positioned switch in stead of to the right pot lug as before.
- Then solder a new (red) wire between the other side of switch to the right lug.
If you’re permanemtly disconnecting the tremolo circuit you can just clip of the brown and yellow wires and insulate the ends with tape.
(One may also use the tremolo pedal, in stead of the spst switch/pot, to entirly disconnect the tremolo. You will not need to replace the intensity pot with a spst, but let the yellow wire to the tremolo pot go through the tremolo pedal. In our opinion this is not a good idea since one loses the possibility to use both the spst switch and tremolo pedal. Using the pedal will now involve a significant click sound and volume increase.)
Rectifier tube
The silverface circuit AB568 has 5U4GB rectifier tube in stead of GZ34. 5U4GB has less attack and more sag. You may choose to go with 5U4GB in all Super Reverb circuits if you desire low wattage breakup before clean headroom.
Blackfacing
As for all AA/AB763 amps the differences between these circuits are not significant for your tone, but for electrical robustness and safety. The AB568 did change tonewise, and many players prefer the classic Ab763 for its warmer, rawer and fuller tone with more tube breakup. The AA763 and AB763 differences are listed below and marked with red colored circles in the figure. They do not affect the tone very much and we doubt anycone can tell the difference in an A/B test with a 30 minute soldering job in between. The first mid tone cap is perhaps something you want to investigate further.
AB763 vs AA763
- Mid cap in EQ circuit for both normal and vibrato channel was reduced from 0.033uF to 0.022uF in AB763. This means more mids in the 0.022uF AB763 since less signal leaks to ground through that cap and the 6,8KOhm resistor. Our recommendation in a sparkling 4×10″ Super Reverb is the lower cap value that allows more beefy tones. If you seek a scooped tone with less mids, go with the higher cap value. This cap is marked with a red circle at the left most side in the figure below, on both channels.
- Just where the dry signal is mixed with the reverb signal (in vibrato hannel) the 4,7KOhm resistor was changed to 3,3KOhm in AB763. This means that the mixed signal contains less reverb in AB763 since more current is passing through the dry path.
- The tremolo tube circuit had changes in capacitor wiring and one of the cathode resistor (from 56 to 100kOhm). We haven’t experienced any significant tone differences between the two. Tone is not affected.
- The phase inverter circuit had two resistors changed. One of the 100KOhm plate resistors was reduced to 82KOhm. The 27KOhm resistor was reduced to 22KOhm. None will make a significant impact in tone.
- The 6L6 power tubes had 1.5KOhm grid resistors installed for safety reasons in AB763.
- The filter cap circuitry was changed from two 20?F/525V to 70?F/350V together with 220KOhm resistors. (Filter caps are only visible in schematics.)
Logical schematics:
Layout:
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AB568 vs AB763
- The GZ34 rectifier tube was replaced with 5U4GB meaning more sag and less attack. You can select which one that matches your tone and style.
- Bias electrolytic cap was changed from 25?F/50V to 50?F/70V in AB568. Tone not affected.
- The bias circuit was changed with separate wires to each of the 6L6 tubes and resistor values changed.
- 150 ohm cathode resistors on 6L6 tubes and a cap between the two catodes.
- 2200pF caps on 6L6 grids. Leaking high frequencies to ground, less distortion and cleaner tone.
- Phase inverter plate resistors changed from 82K/100K to 47K/47K.
The changes are marked with red circles in figure below. Note that we’ve used the Vibrolux AB568 layout diagra which is the same as Super Reverb.
Logical schematics:
Layout:
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Increase/remove/switchable NFB resistor
This mod is applicable in all Fender amps with a negative feedback (NBF) loop. The purpose of the NBF loop is to clean up and cancel out high frequencies and upper harmonics (distortion). Without the NBF loop the volume knob gets more sensitive and aggressive. You’ll find the amp’s sweet spot at a lower volume knob setting. If you remove the feedback loop entirely you’ll achieve maximum effect of this mod. You do not get more or less clean headroom in the amp. You get a rougher and rawer tone with more of the higher frequencies, aka hizz. If you think your guitar and speaker is bright enough you probably do not want any more treble. This mod is for those who want even more of the razor edge sharp tone. Many players find the vibrato channel in AB763-similar circuits bright enough. If you do this mod, we recommend the switchable mod.
You may choose to implement the mod in several ways:
- Simply disconnect the feedback loop (a wire). The 820Ohm resistor can easily be removed with a soldering iron. See the red circled resistor in figures below.
- Increase the feedback loop resistance value. This reduces the effect of the feedback loop, making the amp break up more.
- One of the two alternatives above in combination with making the NBF switchable. You can solder out and remove existing wires to the ground switch if you plan not to use it (if you’re wondering what it does, you don’t need it). Then wire the ground switch in series with the 820Ohm NBF reistor. This will make the NFB mod switchable, which is very practical.
Logical schematics
Layout
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Hello Again,
I may have a partial answer to my question above. On the question of identifying the AB763 vs. AB568 for a Silverface Super Reverb, someone said: “…look for two ‘honking’ resistors between the number 8 pin on the power tubes and ground”. Any other things to look for?
Thank you!
Hello again,
Well I may have a partial answer to my question above. Someone on a different site said that the silverface AB568 (vs. AB763) circuitry had “…2 big honking resistors going from pins #8 on the power tubes to ground”. I don’t see those in mine but I’m sure there are other things to look for. I see the respective layout design sheets for the 2 circuitrys on this site, but as a novice it’s hard to see the differences (even when circled in red!) as I’m looking at the chassis.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
Hi Do you have an opinion about using yellowjackets with Super reverbs ?
Oh and Thanks for your valued info. bob
Great Info! Thanks!
I’m wanting to do the Vibrato disconnect mod on my ’65 SR but I can’t for the life of me find a SPST Pull On/Push Off 50k Reverse Audio Taper Pot
Any suggestions???
Found the pot, for anyone else looking, Weber Speakers have them on their site
Part No.# wp503RAS
https://taweber.powweb.com/store/potsord.htm
^^^
They’re the rotary type.
I am keen on changing tone caps to my ears and specific needs. In terms of the AB763 circuit, regardless of freq, is making the cap bigger makes its freq more pronounced?.
Actually I am willing to reduce the harshness and making the mids more scooped. Should I decrease the value of treble and mid caps? thanks
Try with tubeampdoctor.com in Germany. They have this pot in stock:
C50k reverse audio/log Pot with turn-on-switch SPS in stockPartnumber: Z-SC50K
( It’s the rotary type too, but i have never seen a push-pull pot with this spec., just the rotary type… Maybe you can make a system with a foot switch connected on the rotary pot?)
I have made this mod! Very nice! I give you here a trick for eliminate the “pop” noise due to the residual current. You must sold a 1M ohm resistor between the two lug on the back of the pot. No more noise when you connect or disconnect your vibrato circuit!!!
Do the modifications above apply to the Super Reverb Reissue? I removed the V1 preamp tube, but didn’t notice any effect on the vibrato channel. I also tried using the clean channel with the V6 12AT7 tube in the preamp socket, but volume was the same. I put the 12AX7 in the V6 spot, but couldn’t detect a difference there, either.
I think I have a good ear and would notice a significant change.
Any replies much appreciated.
Never mind the question about whether these mods can be used on the 65 Super Reverb Reissue. I see that question has been asked.
I guess my question now should be, is the change that results from removing the V1 tube, or swapping the V1 and V6, demonstrably noticeable, or subtle? By the time I get the amp powered down, change the tubes, turn it on and get the guitar again, it doesn’t seem like there’s any difference.
Hi Monkeyleg!
I´d say the difference is rather subtle than “demonstrately noticeable” when making either change (unplugging V1 OR changing V6 to a 12AX7), but I think that removing V1 AND subbing V6 with a 12AX7 is quite noticeable.
I think it´s less apparent at lower volumes, but is quite apparent at higher volumes – you get more overdrive and a looser feel overall.
best – 68.